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Do you combine your Buddhist practicing with other Spiritual Disciplines?

I come from a background in spirituality where I have studied Shamanism, Hermeticism (Alchemy, Qabalah etc.) and also some more New Agy stuff from which the most predominant one is channelling (I have been channelling for over a decade now). So, my intention here is not to present my 'spiritual' resume, but to say that Buddhism came to my life as a complementary element to my other practices.

So the question I'm posing is: Do you practice solely Buddhism? Or do you combine it with other spiritual practices, and harmonious this combination has been for you? Love to hear your inputs... :p

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  • edited May 2011
    Hi budding_flower!
    Sometimes, but usually stick to a "solely Buddhist" routine.
    Metta,
    bucky
  • I speak from a personal experience as I was into all the new age stuff as well. If you follow the buddist path, with time all the this stuff falls away naturally. The more I practice buddism the more I trust in 2500 years of experience of millions of practitioners before me. Buddhism is such a vast body of knowledge and experience that anyone can find their own flavor with no need for other practices.
  • genkakugenkaku Northampton, Mass. U.S.A. Veteran
    With practice -- any practice -- things settle down and the need to put icing on the cake dwindles. Practice tells us what is true and what is true does not require a lot of explanation.

    So my vote is, practice ... practice and see what actually happens.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    No.

    Nothing else comes up to par or gives me the same kind of results.

    It's like having a perfect cake mix - then deciding to add bananas, peanuts, pickles, bacon pieces, toffee caramel and onion.

    Really, the cake can do fine without all this extra.....'stuff'.... :crazy:
    lobster
  • Well you see, for me these practices where established in my daily routine long before Buddhism and I appreciate them deeply, but I understand what you are saying. When I was about to become initiated to the 3 degree of the Usui Reiki system, I started a really long and hard investigation trying to find the roots of Usui sensei's teachings and wanted to perish all the new age add-ons that came later from various practitioners of Reiki. So what I did one day was to connect with the spirit of Usui and my heart felt warm for I realized that I was on the right track...
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    Whatever floats your boat. :)
    I used to be a fully-accredited Black Hat Sect Feng Shui Consultant.
    I used to earn good money. I mean, seriously good money.....

    These are all different attachments which after a while, just weigh the raft down....
  • Why should they weigh the raft down? Buddhism in not the only path that exist in this this vast Universe of ours, everyhting serves a purpose in life, I just follow my own...
  • newtechnewtech Veteran
    edited May 2011
    Hello:

    No. I see buddhism as a work of art...pretty perfect.
  • DaozenDaozen Veteran
    Hi Budding Flower,

    Welcome to this wonderful online community!

    Respect to you and your beliefs; personally, I beleive Reiki and the idea of 'spiritual energy' is a sham.

    I sincerely wish you the best on your path. As others have said, when you practice Buddhism for a while, other spiritual practices just start to seem unneccessary.

    Namaste
  • VincenziVincenzi Veteran
    besides practicing the Dharma, I have my own philosophy with my understanding of the nature of reality.
  • Hmm, I know that I just can't give up my love of astrology! (Yet, I don't beleive in a fated destiny... how does that work?) My grandmother can read a natal chart like a text book. She taught me all about houses, rising and descending signs, cusps etc. Even though I wanted to get away from astrology... whenever I calculate someone's birthchart, it is always spot on! (Natal charts are more in depth than sun signs given horoscopes given in ladies magazines). I don't use astrology to predict events, just to get a synopsis of someone's potential character.
    For instance, I fell in love with a gemini, and I was like "What! Taurus's don't like Gemini's!". But when I did an in depth chart of both our full natal charts, I found that she was compatible with me on almost all levels. (We've been living together for 5 years now, and she moved in with me the first month I met her!) It kind of creeps me out how accurate some of the things are in my chart. In addition, it showed a falling out with the mother figure... and my mother and I have had no relationship for 10 years. When I was younger, I denied that this could have ever happened because I was someone who protected and cared for my...Mommie Dearest abusive mother, lol.
    It also described that I would be someone who always wants to learn about life in depth, and that I would be very interested in spiritual matters. When I was younger I thought that meant Christian... but as I grew up I realized I did enjoy thinking about spiritual matters- from the perspective of Buddhism.
    My grandmother always taught me that astrology just pointed out what could be, but that I had a choice to shape my personality. For instance, my sagittarius rising means I want the truth... but mixed with a Taurus sun sign, it means I might become someone who stubbornly thrusts their "truths" on others. So now I try to be careful about my tendency to argue with other's, or thrust my views on them.
    Yet... I reiterate... I don't believe in fate! Lol. I wonder if Buddhists in history used astrology? I know that Buddhism sprang from a country that practiced astrology.
  • Learning the Dhamma and Keeping to the 5 precepts pretty much takes up all the time I have.
  • Partly my way to Buddhism was through Daoism (from a purely philosophical approach, mostly via the Daodejing) and also, oddly, through my love of haiku, which has a *feel* very much like Laotzu's attitude.

    The more I understand Buddhism, the more differences I see with Daoism, though there is some overlap-- it is a bit of a generalisation, but Zen Buddhism certainly was heavily influenced by Daoism. I don't mingle these ideas together though (Dao and sunyata, for example, are NOT synonymous at all). But I would say I probably take a more laid back Daoist attitude with me in my personal approach to the Buddhadharma-- which is fine for me, since I lean to Zen Buddhism anyway.

    Learning about aspects of other religious and philosophical traditions is handy, sometimes to clarify (by comparison and contrast) Buddhist approaches to life, but generally, I think mixing traditions is only to get mixed up. But maybe that's just me. After all, Buddhism has so much breadth and depth, how could one have time add on other traditions to it?

  • VincenziVincenzi Veteran
    Buddhism isn't all-encompasing. Nirvana is a first step...
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    Actually, yes it is, and no it isn't.
    Why should they weigh the raft down? Buddhism in not the only path that exist in this this vast Universe of ours, everyhting serves a purpose in life, I just follow my own...
    I'm not saying you shouldn't.
    What I'm saying is that in time, we learn to shed that which has become unnecessary on our journey.
    It's called detachment, and as I'm sure you realise, in time, it all has to be put down, anyway.
    I still occasionally advise people on Feng Shui aspects, but for nothing.
    And it's just suggestions, not recommendations....
    :)

  • Well, I try to be more practical in my 'spiritual' approach in life. For some time I didn't even like the word spiritual for it promoted the dualistic approach of spirit and matter. Federica I agree with you that as you move on your path you begin to shed of all the unnecessary weigh, for I have shed many of my older practices that I used to perform in the past, but for now this is what I do, just trust my gut feelings, and for the future who knows... :) . I never mix traditions but rather respect them from what they are. The fact that I'm still new to Buddhism maybe has misled me in my approach to it. But I come from a background where I feel that there are the mind oriented religions (and I place Buddhism in that category too), and spiritual awareness of the truth that goes beyond the mind (yes I adopted this word again). This may sound contradicting to what I’ve previously said, but if Buddhism teaches the realization of reality beyond the mind then I'm on the right track...

    With metta Budding_Flower...
  • DaozenDaozen Veteran
    Budding_Flower: How can any experience be beyond the mind?
  • DaozenDaozen Veteran
    edited May 2011
    whenever I calculate someone's birthchart, it is always spot on!
    A number of different people can be given a reading and they report is really, really reflects who they are. Later it is revealed the reading is exactly the same.

    There are all kinds of pschological reasons astrology can seem to work. But the fact is, it doesn't.

  • DaozenDaozen Veteran
    The more I understand Buddhism, the more differences I see with Daoism, though there is some overlap-- it is a bit of a generalisation, but Zen Buddhism certainly was heavily influenced by Daoism.
    In my studies of the two, i have come to think Daoism was more influenced by Buddhism than the other way round.

  • I guess I practice Buddhism as a way of life. I think if I felt the need to practice another religion alongside Buddhism, I wouldn't really think Buddhism was doing it's job, but that's just my view.
  • You can try whatever you like. Mixing might work for some and not work for others. Just be mindful in each thing you do and don't worry about whether or not it will have a positive or negative interaction with your other practices - this will show itself in time. If it ends up not working out, try something else. And smile!
  • aMattaMatt Veteran
    A number of different people can be given a reading and they report is really, really reflects who they are. Later it is revealed the reading is exactly the same.

    There are all kinds of pschological reasons astrology can seem to work. But the fact is, it doesn't.

    Do you have any research to back this claim? I studied astrology a number of years back and found it quite predictive of personality traits. I'd like to read the psychologial study that proves your "fact", if you have a reference.
  • If 2 persons are born on the same time & day,
    they are very similar?
  • We must bear in mind that the Buddhism which we practise, irrespective of tradition or school, is already an amalgam arising from context.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited May 2011
    A number of different people can be given a reading and they report is really, really reflects who they are. Later it is revealed the reading is exactly the same.

    There are all kinds of pschological reasons astrology can seem to work. But the fact is, it doesn't.

    Do you have any research to back this claim? I studied astrology a number of years back and found it quite predictive of personality traits. I'd like to read the psychologial study that proves your "fact", if you have a reference.
    http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=54312

    This forum discusses this very thing happening....

    Derren Brown proved quite emphatically, broadcast on TV, that this could be done. I watched the programme in question.
    It was quite fascinating.
    You don't need a psychological study. You just need 12 unconnected people, and separate interviews.


  • Daozen, you can experience reality through the awareness of an expanded consciousness, that goes beyond the concrete mind into pure knowingness. I talk from personal experience working with my Light Body, a type of energy work that I was taught from the channels Duane Packer and Sanaya Roman.
  • mithrilmithril Veteran
    I practice Buddhism only. That is not to say i don't occasionally read other stuff (i read some things about Taoism and found it fascinating), if it has a nice cover i will read whats inside to see if it has something valuable to say (or title for my online reading^^). Thats one attachment of mine - if you put a book or magazine with an interesting cover or title next to me and tell me you'd shoot me if i read it i would read it sooner or later anyway^^
  • aMattaMatt Veteran
    edited May 2011


    http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=54312
    This forum discusses this very thing happening....

    Derren Brown proved quite emphatically, broadcast on TV, that this could be done. I watched the programme in question.
    It was quite fascinating.
    You don't need a psychological study. You just need 12 unconnected people, and separate interviews.
    I don't trust this research, its laced with confirmation bias. It would not be difficult to generate a report that would be "right on" for multiple personality types, but that is making the assumption that astrological reports are generic and bullpucky. Or said differently, just because people will project themselves into a false report does not discount the authenticity of the astrological data.

    I have personally witnessed someone who got a report that did not fit them, they knew it, protested, and it turned out to be an anomaly in the information given to the astrologer, namely the wrong time of birth.

    I was hoping for a little more scientific... less jaded.
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    edited May 2011
    Who needs science when the experiments speak for themselves??
    I watched him interview each of the applicants. I then watched him individually hand round the horoscopes.
    I watched as each person read their horoscope intently, agreeing with the findings, and two people even being reduced to tears, as they marvelled, emotionally, at how penetrating Derren brown's readings had been.
    I then saw their faces, as aghast, they read each others' readings - and discovered that they were all identical.
    And yet, they had all identified intimately, closely, with everything he had written.
    I don't know what kind of scientific psychological evidence you are seeking. I think this speaks volumes, and would amply qualify.

    What do you need? For someone to have the word 'professor' before his name, and an institute they work from?
    Why would it be any more credible research?

    My account is not jaded. It happened as it happened, and I'm telling it like it happened. It's not jaded at all. It's accurate.
    I'd like you to present some verifiable scientific research to demonstrate that such readings are individually accurate and can be proven as such.
  • I feel that you can be a Buddhist on whatever level you are ready to be a Buddhist. I would suggest to be open for letting this idea of self evolve as well. Don't get attached to a particular perspective or way of being, "Buddhist."

    From this perspective, why not integrate in whatever fashion feels natural or comfortable? Buddhism should not be about forced conversion to a particular "ideal."
  • DaozenDaozen Veteran
    edited May 2011
    @aMatt,

    It is you who are demonstrating confirmation bias. You have been shown an explicit example where it has been demonstrated that people are easily duped into believing astrological 'readings', yet you simply dismiss this evidence because it doesn't fit neatly with your preconceived notions. Your point about an incorreect report simply shows someone not believing, then beleiving a reading. This does nothing to refute the experiment.

    Studies have also repeatedly shown that astrological sign bears zero connection to any major psychological assessment techniques.
  • DaozenDaozen Veteran
    @ Budding_Flower

    What is a 'Light Body'? I have one body, and it's not made of light.

    Namaste
  • VajraheartVajraheart Veteran
    edited May 2011
    @ Budding_Flower

    What is a 'Light Body'? I have one body, and it's not made of light.

    Namaste
    Light Body seems to mean different things in different traditions. I'm curious to hear what Budding Flower has to say? It's mentioned in more Tantric forms of Buddhism, as well as Dzogchen. It is also mentioned in mystic Christianity as well as Taoism. Even in Tantric forms of Hinduism and Sufism.
  • edited May 2011
    No. From what I have found, Buddhism far transcends and surpasses all other spiritual traditions on the face of the Earth in terms of it's power and ability to bring happiness and liberation into the life of the practitioner. I consider it to be the umbrella of teachings, and all other spiritualities abide within it. The Dhamma is all transcending. It has no limits.
    From what I know, religions like Christianity, and Islam, if practiced properly, will lead to rebirth in a heavenly realm, possibly a Bhrama-Loca, or Bhrama-World. It should be interesting to note that there are descriptions of Bhrama beings in the discourses of the Buddha who held them selves to be all powerful and the creator of everything in existence (sound familiar)? The Buddha then proceeded to dematerialize from this realm, re-appear in the Bhrama-Loca, and dispel this wrong view from the Bhrama. He did encounter some resistance from Mara, the evil one, however in the end the Buddha prevailed at reinstating a correct view of the Dhamma in the mind of the Bhrama, which most likely conduced to his happiness for a very long time. The down side of this is that all conditioned phenomena, heaven being included in this category, is impermanent. This means that after a very long period of time of being alive in the heavenly realm, you will die, and pass on according to your previously performed actions, which might not be so good, and can lead to rebirth in a lower realm. Therein lies the danger in sensual pleasures, and clinging to the five aggregates. This is where the Buddha comes into play.
    Buddha says that just by hearing the Dhamma, accepting in it, and believing in it , you will go to heaven. Now how powerful is that? But even more of what the Dhamma can do for you, that no other spiritual tradition can do, is lead you to Nibbana, which is like unending heaven. There is no more birth, and no more death. Just complete stillness, tranquility, happiness, and peace.
    That is why there is nothing more powerful on Earth than the Dhamma, and that is why it is so important for us to learn to understand it, and put it into practice. :) Good luck.
  • aMattaMatt Veteran
    It is you who are demonstrating confirmation bias. You have been shown an explicit example where it has been demonstrated that people are easily duped into believing astrological 'readings', yet you simply dismiss this evidence because it doesn't fit neatly with your preconceived notions. Your point about an incorreect report simply shows someone not believing, then beleiving a reading. This does nothing to refute the experiment.

    Studies have also repeatedly shown that astrological sign bears zero connection to any major psychological assessment techniques.
    That example only shows a placebo effect. I don't have strong notions for or against astrology, I only asked if there was some sort of study that proved your "facts". Taking that TV show as proof astrology is false is the equilivent to proving asprin doesn't work because a sugar pill helped a control group. It does nothing to show the validity or invalidity of the data, only people's gullibility. Those "studies" you hint at sound interesting, though. Have a link?

    You keep saying science and studies, but offered no factual data... which I was hoping for. I accept you and fed feel astrology is wrong, I'm not intending to argue otherwise, because I don't know. I've never found a study one way or another, and when I looked into it, there seemed to be a set of reasonable, observable descriptions for personality archetypes.

    If you really can't see why I rejected fed's offering, not out of confirmation bais, but through honoring the scientific method, we may as well drop it. Its not that important anyway. :)

    Fed - isn't this where you get stern about the OT to the OP?

    Such solid views for such unrelated data!
  • @Budding_Flower ... the answer is yes. I enjoy another practice in addition to Buddhism. Buddhism is the dominant spiritual compass in my life, and astrology is good fun. My grandmother has been practicing various new-age beliefs throughout her life. She has managed to create her own unique spirituality that takes a little of everything. She is a very kind, happy, and honest person. I'm amazed at how wise she is. She taught herself to use a computer and now she brags about being able to listen to internet meditation audios for free. She's a very strong woman who taught me that truth is relative, and that everyone should have the freedom to explore this lifetime.

    To some of the people who are practicing such beautiful Buddhist manners. Please remember that I was simply sharing personal experiences in answer to the original topic's question. I did not intend to start a war, nor was I looking for validation for my practices from others. People been feisty lately... with all the back and forth banter, quoting, criticisms and nitpicking.
  • DaltheJigsawDaltheJigsaw Mountain View Veteran
    I speak from a personal experience as I was into all the new age stuff as well. If you follow the buddist path, with time all the this stuff falls away naturally. The more I practice buddism the more I trust in 2500 years of experience of millions of practitioners before me. Buddhism is such a vast body of knowledge and experience that anyone can find their own flavor with no need for other practices.
    I tend to agree!
    I been all over the map as well.
    What you mentioned in your post and more!
    I have also practiced with different masters, my own experiences, classes, workshops and all the other "stuff.";)
    Personally, Buddhism just works for me.:)
  • I come from a background in spirituality where I have studied Shamanism, Hermeticism (Alchemy, Qabalah etc.) and also some more New Agy stuff from which the most predominant one is channelling (I have been channelling for over a decade now). So, my intention here is not to present my 'spiritual' resume, but to say that Buddhism came to my life as a complementary element to my other practices.

    So the question I'm posing is: Do you practice solely Buddhism? Or do you combine it with other spiritual practices, and harmonious this combination has been for you? Love to hear your inputs... :p
    i am not a Buddhist however, i found Buddha to be very wise, i feel very removed when i hear all this concepts
    for some reason i have to realize all this things my self. through deep mediation i have come up with my own conclusions
    and something that works for me. its like realizing is an actually a way of applying the concepts.

    i have found many people on this site. with many different ideas. and everyone hear is very open and giving.

    thank you
    juan orellana
    i love you unconditionally


  • DaozenDaozen Veteran
    @aMatt

    Exactly - and when the placebo affect is as strong as the supposed medicine, then the medicine is not considered good!

    If you want to, theres lots of data out there, just hit up google and start reading and if you have a scientific kind of mind, you'll soon see astrology is built on shaky ground indeed. But seems like your not really bothered either way, all good..
  • aMattaMatt Veteran
    Mal - I don't think there was any kind of war, if there was it went over my head.

    I thought we were just exchanging ideas. :/
  • ArjquadArjquad Veteran
    Mine is just basically Buddhism. But I do have other beliefs that are easiest to explain as the Kami from Shinto.
  • Arjquad, I like your style... :p
  • I am open to everything that leads to a wider understanding and a loving heart. :o
  • ArjquadArjquad Veteran
    why thank you budding flower. I have never heard of channeling, what exactly is it?
  • Better PM with your inquiries Arjquad, for we will be off topic... :p
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator
    And PM him a reply.... :D

    Good call. :)
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