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lobsterlobster Veteran Veteran

No question is too basic here!

Thank God Buddha,
I notice even the basics are occasionally questioned ... <3 [Group Hug] <3

What is the basic question?

For me it would be ... the answer ...

Comments

  • BunksBunks Veteran Australia Veteran

    Why does the Buddha like lists so much?

    Are we sure he wasn't a woman?

    federicaShoshin
  • KeromeKerome Love, love is mystery The Continent Veteran

    Why is the Buddha so hung up on suffering?

    Isn’t the middle way that we have a little suffering and a little happiness? What would unrelenting happiness be like, wouldn’t it get really boring after a while?

  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    @Bunks said:
    Why does the Buddha like lists so much?

    Are we sure he wasn't a woman?

    I am perpetually making lists; this made my H laugh so much he nearly choked on his granary toast and marmalade.

    Made my day!

    lobsterBunks
  • lobsterlobster Veteran Veteran

    @Kerome said:
    Why is the Buddha so hung up on suffering?

    Isn’t the middle way that we have a little suffering and a little happiness? What would unrelenting happiness be like, wouldn’t it get really boring after a while?

    Not really.
    Dukkha is inherent in sugar, spice, marmalade and nice
    boring, unrelenting appiness (yes they have a hap app for that) and all transitory experience

    The middle way transcends self hugging, attachment to Buddha or other sides.
    We all knew that ...
    https://www.learnreligions.com/life-is-suffering-what-does-that-mean-450094

  • BunksBunks Veteran Australia Veteran
    edited February 5

    @Kerome said:
    Why is the Buddha so hung up on suffering?

    Isn’t the middle way that we have a little suffering and a little happiness? What would unrelenting happiness be like, wouldn’t it get really boring after a while?

    You need to define happiness @Kerome.

    For me, worldly happiness is enjoying sensual pleasure wheras the Buddha taught the removal of greed, anger and ignorance.

    Two different things.

    ShoshinFeistyGibblets
  • KeromeKerome Love, love is mystery The Continent Veteran

    Just playing Devil’s Advocate >:)

    All for world peace and the removal of greed, anger and ignorance...

    lobsterBunks
  • lobsterlobster Veteran Veteran

    Just playing Devil’s Advocate

    B)

    I am perpetually making lists; this made my H laugh so much he nearly choked on his granary toast and marmalade.

    Made my day!

    Tee Hee. The dark side has its benefits ...

    I have a very dark sense of humour. It is a coping mechanism. Because there is indeed some severe ignorance, anger, greed and mal marmalade munchers. ;) Fortunately there is great wheel turning. This to me is one of the fundamental advocacies of all functioning spiritual paths. How do we turn the tide of our Kleshas?
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleshas_(Buddhism)

    ... and again we find ourselves centred on the Middle Way ...

  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    The 5 precepts. Optional, right? I mean, this number 5 shit ... dope and whisky are my goods to go, they're still legit, tho', yeah?

    Bunks
  • KeromeKerome Love, love is mystery The Continent Veteran
    edited February 5

    I came across a YouTube channel full of rabid Trump supporters the other day, it was called And We Know if you feel like paying it a visit and perhaps do a little baiting of the comments section. Be prepared for lots of praying Republicans though. It was slightly scary.

    But yes, the klesha’s. I think awareness is the first thing, to know what craving does to you and the forms it takes. And then to focus some effort on letting go.

  • BunksBunks Veteran Australia Veteran

    @Kerome said:
    Just playing Devil’s Advocate >:)

    I think Mara’s Advocate perhaps? o:)

  • KeromeKerome Love, love is mystery The Continent Veteran

    @Bunks said:

    @Kerome said:
    Just playing Devil’s Advocate >:)

    I think Mara’s Advocate perhaps? o:)

    Ooh I’m not sure I’d go that far... being Mara’s advocate seems like you would have to get far too close to greed, avoidance and ignorance and how to generate these in others. Though come to think of it that sounds like a lawyers dream :s

    Bunks
  • opiumpoetryopiumpoetry New Delaware, Ohio, USA New

    @Kerome said:
    Why is the Buddha so hung up on suffering?

    Isn’t the middle way that we have a little suffering and a little happiness? What would unrelenting happiness be like, wouldn’t it get really boring after a while?

    I read somewhere that the "4 Noble Truths" may have been added to Buddhism only AFTER the Buddha's death. Maybe we should simply discard them?

  • BunksBunks Veteran Australia Veteran

    @opiumpoetry said:

    @Kerome said:
    Why is the Buddha so hung up on suffering?

    Isn’t the middle way that we have a little suffering and a little happiness? What would unrelenting happiness be like, wouldn’t it get really boring after a while?

    I read somewhere that the "4 Noble Truths" may have been added to Buddhism only AFTER the Buddha's death. Maybe we should simply discard them?

    The 4 Noble Truths are the core teachings of the Buddha IMHO.

    Discard them and you may as well discard everything!

    FeistyGibblets
  • lobsterlobster Veteran Veteran

    @Bunks said:

    Discard them and you may as well discard everything!

    Thanks for the tip o:)

    Bunks
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    @opiumpoetry said:

    @Kerome said:
    Why is the Buddha so hung up on suffering?

    Isn’t the middle way that we have a little suffering and a little happiness? What would unrelenting happiness be like, wouldn’t it get really boring after a while?

    I read somewhere that the "4 Noble Truths" may have been added to Buddhism only AFTER the Buddha's death. Maybe we should simply discard them?

    Huh. As if. 🙄🤨

    'Read somewhere' don't cut the mustard round these here parts. Start jabberin' 'bout reading something somewhere, and your friendly, ever-present resident Moderator* will ask you provide reference and/or link. In other words, "pictures or it didn't happen." Will happily wait for you to provide! 😁

    (*that would be me!)

    Alex
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    That's how hardcore I am. Dhammawheel ain't got nuthin' on me! Bunch of wimps!

    Bunkslobster
  • BunksBunks Veteran Australia Veteran

    Me thinks someone might be taking the pi55.

  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    @Bunks said:
    Me thinks someone might be taking the pi55.

    who, moi...?! :D

  • BunksBunks Veteran Australia Veteran

    @federica said:

    @Bunks said:
    Me thinks someone might be taking the pi55.

    who, moi...?! :D

    Haha no. The person who made the 4NT comment

  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    Oh yeah. I knew that. Eventually.
    It didn't sink in at first, but then I remembered the thread. :D

    Bunks
  • BunksBunks Veteran Australia Veteran

    @federica said:
    Oh yeah. I knew that. Eventually.
    It didn't sink in at first, but then I remembered the thread. :D

    Yes! Me too....

  • lobsterlobster Veteran Veteran

    As some Buddha killing zen types know, answers do not have to make sense to serve us and others ... 🤪😳😌

    For example I don't believe in Shiva, Ganesh, Chenresig, Allah, Adi Buddha, Dr Who or baby Jesus but I am quite happy to pray to trees, birds, aliens from other dimensions and any passing divas ...
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adi-Buddha

    Crazy? Sure! 🌈🤗🥰😇

    Whatever it takes ... 🔓

    BunksAlex
  • ShoshinShoshin No one in particular Nowhere Special Veteran

    @opiumpoetry said:

    I read somewhere that the "4 Noble Truths" may have been added to Buddhism only AFTER the Buddha's death. Maybe we should simply discard them?

    Yes ......once we're across "Gate gate paragate parasamgate Bodhi Svaha"

    lobster
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    "Row, row row your boat, gently down the stream,
    Merrily, merrily, merrily merrily, Life is but a dream!"

    The greatest lesson in Buddhism ever written.

    Discuss.

    Alexlobster
  • BunksBunks Veteran Australia Veteran

    @federica said:
    "Row, row row your boat, gently down the stream,
    Merrily, merrily, merrily merrily, Life is but a dream!"

    The greatest lesson in Buddhism ever written.

    Discuss.

    Wow! That's heavy.....

    I'm going for a lie down.

    federicalobster
  • KeromeKerome Love, love is mystery The Continent Veteran

    @federica said:
    "Row, row row your boat, gently down the stream,
    Merrily, merrily, merrily merrily, Life is but a dream!"

    The greatest lesson in Buddhism ever written.

    Discuss.

    The rowing is obviously using the dhamma, while you are crossing to the other side. You’ve entered the stream. Then life is but a dream refers to this world, not the life beyond.

    Yeah... deep, dude.

    Bunks
  • AlexAlex Veteran UK Veteran

    I think ‘life is but a dream’ might refer to our unawakened and false perception of reality, that once awakened, we can see reality for what it is.

    Or, I might just be spouting off about Zen again 😂

    Bunkslobster
  • johnathanjohnathan ICBI Canada Veteran
    edited February 13

    @Bunks said:
    Why does the Buddha like lists so much?

    Are we sure he wasn't a woman?

    Buddha taught in a time of oral traditions. Things were not written down. It was much easier to memorize lists.

    Bunks
  • lobsterlobster Veteran Veteran

    Buddha taught in a time of oral traditions.

    Buddha gave oral? Good job.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Householder_(Buddhism)

    ... did I deliberately misunderstand ... again 🤭🤗😯

    BunksAlexFeistyGibblets
  • FeistyGibbletsFeistyGibblets Explorer South Australia Explorer

    @lobster said:

    Buddha taught in a time of oral traditions.

    Buddha gave oral? Good job.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Householder_(Buddhism)

    Well I hear he was a cunning linguist...... hides

  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    Nope. I can still see you.

    Your slip is showing...

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