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Putin is desperate. Also shows how good of an the analogy seeing geopolitics as a poker / chess table is. After losing so much, backing down is not even inside his mind. He decides to go all in....
Sadly as usual, the meat in the political money making/grabbing war sandwich...for the most part ... innocent people...
...used as cannon fodder and if they managed to survive, many are physically and mentally scarred for life..
"A thirst for the Hun
We were food for the gun
And that's what you are when you're soldiers"
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JeroenLuminous beings are we, not this crude matterNetherlandsVeteran
I thought the whole escalation of the war in Ukraine is a disaster for all right-thinking people. First the Ukrainians call up all males aged 18-60 for service in the army, then the Russians partially mobilise, it makes no sense.
I’m glad I registered as a conscientious objector here in the Netherlands when the time was right.
Start out: War - Bad
No matter how they are labeled or "justified", WAR - BAD
This one:
Again, needs of the people ignored -
A de facto dictator dreams of establishing the New Russian Empire by invading Ukraine
1. Under estimated resistance
2. Military not ready - Over estimated own military.
3. Again untold suffering to appease the ego/greed of a very few.
4. This one is an invasion on Western Europe's doorstep - a threat to those countries.
Result: Again, money wasted as property, LIVES lost
Environmental degradation
Political reshuffling - so called elite still don't learn They didn't suffer
And the Earth adjusts to shake off the growing malady.
WAR - BAD
Ignorance - Greed - Arrogant actions creating more Hell, Hunger Animality and
Anger.
=======
Remember: This is the war being covered. It is terrible. All wars are terrible.
Hmmm.... this reminds me of my medieval history teacher back in university:
"Contemporary history, or current affairs, is mostly journalism. Real history takes centuries, or at least many decades to unveil, because lots of the documents are either hidden, agendas are misunderstood, and (IMPORTANT) there is a tendency to lack of the necessary perspective required to make a good balance of what actually happen."
So far I just see vast groups of people and their respective alliances fighting over territory and ideas; not caring about the preciousness of life at all.
I do notice in the media EVERY story regarding Russia is about Putin losing his grip, losing the war, generally having a miserable time.
Bit like when Trump was President
Yes it's a propaganda war of egos and greed...and all the innocent lives lost/wasted are just collateral damage...
Behind the scene, there are the puppet masters who are making a lot of dough from the ongoing conflict and have no desire for it to come to an end any time soon...
The love of money is the root of all evil, and weapon manufacturers and those who have shares in the companies have dollars signs in their eyes as they watch the destruction and bloodshed and cold hard cash where their hearts should be...
I do notice in the media EVERY story regarding Russia is about Putin losing his grip, losing the war, generally having a miserable time.
Bit like when Trump was President
That's in the Western media. But meanwhile, P himself is saying that the recent crisis resulted in more support than ever for the "Motherland" and himself as head of it. The leadership in Russia rallied around him at the beginning of those events, in a show of support.
So, whether he's losing his grip or is tightening it, is up for debate. The truth is probably somewhere in-between. But he's spinning the whole thing as an attempted coup, a narrowly-averted civil war, which is ridiculous. One guy leading a few thousand men toward the capital is not a civil war. It's just one guy who has a beef with the Minister of Defense, who appeared to be incompetent in supplying the Wagner troops with food, munitions, and other basics. One guy, who had a solid following among his men, so that he could organize a show of force to demonstrate he was to be taken seriously. This caused the fearless leader to flinch. So now the populace and the world has witnessed, that the supreme leader is not so fearless. Still, he's good at holding on to power.
Western news sources and pundits are hoping this is the beginning of the end for the hitherto fearless leader, but I think that's wishful thinking. I take this type of prognosis with a grain of salt. We'll wait and see.
In the meantime, there have been reports that Belarus is building camps for Prigozhin and his men, near the Ukraine border. It looks like Russia and Belarus want to make use of him to lead an attack on Ukraine from the north, while pretending they've sent him into "exile", and neutralized him. All we can do is wait and see. But betting on wishful thinking is not conducive to winning. I doubt Ukraine is engaging in wishful thinking. They have a country to win back. They have to be more grounded in reality. I found it interesting, that throughout the weekend and its aftermath, none of the media outlets thought to find out what the Ukraine's leadership's perspective was on the whole thing.
Came across this Tucker Carson's interview with Putin on the Russia Ukraine war ...
Interesting....
Not sure what to make of it...Around one hour forty minutes in, it gets a bit weirder
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JeroenLuminous beings are we, not this crude matterNetherlandsVeteran
I must admit, I just think all these world leaders are more than a little insane. You would have to be to want to be a world leader, and then to go to war. And who wants to listen to insane, very cunning people justify their actions… what use is it to know the news, to be up to date with these things? You can’t do anything about it, your indignation serves no purpose.
@Jeroen said:
I must admit, I just think all these world leaders are more than a little insane. You would have to be to want to be a world leader, and then to go to war. And who wants to listen to insane, very cunning people justify their actions… what use is it to know the news, to be up to date with these things? You can’t do anything about it, your indignation serves no purpose.
Question: How can you tell when a politician is lying ?
Answer : When their lips are moving!
@Jeroen said:
I must admit, I just think all these world leaders are more than a little insane. You would have to be to want to be a world leader, and then to go to war. And who wants to listen to insane, very cunning people justify their actions… what use is it to know the news, to be up to date with these things? You can’t do anything about it, your indignation serves no purpose.
Question: How can you tell when a politician is lying ?
Answer : When their lips are moving!
The Human Cost: A stark look at the civilian toll
The Human Cost of proxy warfare is a profound and often overlooked aspect of modern conflict, manifesting in a stark and tragic toll on civilian populations.
This tragic dimension extends across various forms of proxy warfare, including the utilisation of private contractors, special forces, and technological means such as drones.
Civilian casualties are not a new phenomenon in warfare, but the indirect nature of proxy conflicts often exacerbates the lack of accountability and oversight.
In regions where private military contractors operate, incidents involving civilian harm may go un-investigated or unpunished, shrouded in a cloud of legal ambiguity.
Special forces, with their covert nature, may engage in operations that lead to unintended civilian loss without sufficient public scrutiny.
The use of drone strikes offers a particularly poignant example of how remote warfare can lead to civilian casualties.
Despite the precision that technology purports to offer, errors in intelligence, targeting, and execution can, and do, lead to the deaths of innocents.
Such incidents have occurred in places like Pakistan, Yemen, and Afghanistan, often leaving families devastated and communities disrupted without clear avenues for redress.
The psychological toll on affected populations must also not be underestimated. Living under the constant threat of drone strikes or in areas controlled by proxy forces can create an environment of fear and uncertainty.
This psychological impact, in turn, can have long-term effects on mental health, community cohesion, and overall stability in the region.
Even in the context of seemingly “controlled” engagements like those conducted by special forces or highly trained contractors, the human cost can be immense.
Operations may lead to collateral damage, affecting non-combatants caught in the crossfire, or indirectly impacting civilians through the destruction of infrastructure, loss of livelihoods, and displacement.
The lack of clear accountability mechanisms in proxy warfare contributes to a culture of impunity, where transgressions against civilians may go unchecked.
International laws and norms that aim to protect non-combatants often find limited application in these shadowy conflicts, leading to a breakdown in the traditional safeguards that govern warfare.
We see this playing out all over the place and there seems to be a few key player countries involved ...
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Putin is desperate. Also shows how good of an the analogy seeing geopolitics as a poker / chess table is. After losing so much, backing down is not even inside his mind. He decides to go all in....
Sadly as usual, the meat in the political money making/grabbing war sandwich...for the most part ... innocent people...
...used as cannon fodder and if they managed to survive, many are physically and mentally scarred for life..
"A thirst for the Hun
We were food for the gun
And that's what you are when you're soldiers"
I thought the whole escalation of the war in Ukraine is a disaster for all right-thinking people. First the Ukrainians call up all males aged 18-60 for service in the army, then the Russians partially mobilise, it makes no sense.
I’m glad I registered as a conscientious objector here in the Netherlands when the time was right.
This young guy gives some interesting updates
Start out: War - Bad
No matter how they are labeled or "justified", WAR - BAD
This one:
Again, needs of the people ignored -
A de facto dictator dreams of establishing the New Russian Empire by invading Ukraine
1. Under estimated resistance
2. Military not ready - Over estimated own military.
3. Again untold suffering to appease the ego/greed of a very few.
4. This one is an invasion on Western Europe's doorstep - a threat to those countries.
Result: Again, money wasted as property, LIVES lost
Environmental degradation
Political reshuffling - so called elite still don't learn They didn't suffer
And the Earth adjusts to shake off the growing malady.
WAR - BAD
Ignorance - Greed - Arrogant actions creating more Hell, Hunger Animality and
Anger.
=======
Remember: This is the war being covered. It is terrible. All wars are terrible.
Peace to all
Putiney Mutiny in Russia...
For real ? Or staged ? ...Hmm I wonder...
Hmmm.... this reminds me of my medieval history teacher back in university:
"Contemporary history, or current affairs, is mostly journalism. Real history takes centuries, or at least many decades to unveil, because lots of the documents are either hidden, agendas are misunderstood, and (IMPORTANT) there is a tendency to lack of the necessary perspective required to make a good balance of what actually happen."
So far I just see vast groups of people and their respective alliances fighting over territory and ideas; not caring about the preciousness of life at all.
I do notice in the media EVERY story regarding Russia is about Putin losing his grip, losing the war, generally having a miserable time.
Bit like when Trump was President
Yes it's a propaganda war of egos and greed...and all the innocent lives lost/wasted are just collateral damage...
Behind the scene, there are the puppet masters who are making a lot of dough from the ongoing conflict and have no desire for it to come to an end any time soon...
The love of money is the root of all evil, and weapon manufacturers and those who have shares in the companies have dollars signs in their eyes as they watch the destruction and bloodshed and cold hard cash where their hearts should be...
That's in the Western media. But meanwhile, P himself is saying that the recent crisis resulted in more support than ever for the "Motherland" and himself as head of it. The leadership in Russia rallied around him at the beginning of those events, in a show of support.
So, whether he's losing his grip or is tightening it, is up for debate. The truth is probably somewhere in-between. But he's spinning the whole thing as an attempted coup, a narrowly-averted civil war, which is ridiculous. One guy leading a few thousand men toward the capital is not a civil war. It's just one guy who has a beef with the Minister of Defense, who appeared to be incompetent in supplying the Wagner troops with food, munitions, and other basics. One guy, who had a solid following among his men, so that he could organize a show of force to demonstrate he was to be taken seriously. This caused the fearless leader to flinch. So now the populace and the world has witnessed, that the supreme leader is not so fearless. Still, he's good at holding on to power.
Western news sources and pundits are hoping this is the beginning of the end for the hitherto fearless leader, but I think that's wishful thinking. I take this type of prognosis with a grain of salt. We'll wait and see.
In the meantime, there have been reports that Belarus is building camps for Prigozhin and his men, near the Ukraine border. It looks like Russia and Belarus want to make use of him to lead an attack on Ukraine from the north, while pretending they've sent him into "exile", and neutralized him. All we can do is wait and see. But betting on wishful thinking is not conducive to winning. I doubt Ukraine is engaging in wishful thinking. They have a country to win back. They have to be more grounded in reality. I found it interesting, that throughout the weekend and its aftermath, none of the media outlets thought to find out what the Ukraine's leadership's perspective was on the whole thing.
Came across this Tucker Carson's interview with Putin on the Russia Ukraine war ...
Interesting....
Not sure what to make of it...Around one hour forty minutes in, it gets a bit weirder
I must admit, I just think all these world leaders are more than a little insane. You would have to be to want to be a world leader, and then to go to war. And who wants to listen to insane, very cunning people justify their actions… what use is it to know the news, to be up to date with these things? You can’t do anything about it, your indignation serves no purpose.
The ego plays a big part in daily life and for world leaders it would seem that it plays a bigger part...
What it boils down to is humans being human warts and all.....
Question: How can you tell when a politician is lying ?
Answer : When their lips are moving!
Very true unfortunately.
I found this article interesting
Invisible Armies & Proxy Warfare
We see this playing out all over the place and there seems to be a few key player countries involved ...