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Why aren't you enlightened?
lobster
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There you are loyally following the latest blinding teacher, year after decade and yet . . .
In my not very humble opinion the job of a teacher is to make themself redundant as soon as possible. It is the disempowering/empowering thing to do . . .
A while back a couple of people on this very forum were enlightened enough to admit they were enlightened. No big deal for them or anyone else . . .
What is holding some people back? Are they so advanced they have superseded minimal requirements? Will they ever start practicing? Are they so integrated and natural they appear as deluded as the next wannabe Buddha? What fun.
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In my not very humble opinion the job of a teacher is to make themself redundant as soon as possible. It is the disempowering/empowering thing to do . . .
A while back a couple of people on this very forum were enlightened enough to admit they were enlightened. No big deal for them or anyone else . . .
What is holding some people back? Are they so advanced they have superseded minimal requirements? Will they ever start practicing? Are they so integrated and natural they appear as deluded as the next wannabe Buddha? What fun.
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:::: melts the butter, fills the big pot with salted water... ::::
I personally enjoy @lobster 's posts.
I'm enlightened, somewhere. My GPS just keeps recalculating and I haven't quite found it yet.
. . . whilst I am cooking . . .
The point of Buddhism is still enlightenment, Nirvana I take it? . . . just checking . . .
So the question I would suggest is poignant. In fact I would go further. It is essential.
More pointless questions and lobster sauce after cooking . . .
WHY ARE YOU NOT ENLIGHTENED YET?
If enlightenment is waking up
&
"you" are the dream,
who cares?.
It came as quite a revelation to me that enlightenment needs certain conditions to be in place. I might not be able to fulfil those conditions. So maybe I could change some of my behaviour to at least help someone who had a chance or some potential. It was this change from 'what do I get out', to what needs to be removed, that was the whole basis of my culinary skills . . . wait a minute . . . how did I end up cooking . . . just a touch more metta . . . and I will be ready to serve . . .
:wave:
And for all you truly know, I may just like dry heaves.
We give Lobster a pass on his persistent, inane blather. Share the wealth.
And what does Lobster perspiring to an insane lather have to do with anything?
And its utter horse shit I know.
Yet I blame my age. 25, male and indestructible.
This is my single flaw in why I am probably not as effort driven in my ending of kleshas through serious practice.
Also I really enjoy girls, sex, pizza and beer. So lots of ego and materialism.
So the three poisons have me in their throat.
Ha slowly though. Things are losing interest. A subtle detachment arises from little practice. Hopefully I can cultivate more.
Or maybe I should just get my shit together. =]
Full Enlightenment: 100% mindfulness not to be deluded and therefore no craving (no more greed/hate/delusion)
Had to look that up
Great film. Just reminds me of this:
gate gate pāragate pārasaṃgate bodhi svāhā
Spoiler alert:
You can run and you can certainly hide but prison is a state of mind. Same goes for the bush shakers . . .
As you know girls have Buddha nature, some boys too . . .
Do you feel the enlightened mind manifests in Dharma Pizza, its base or topping? Do we engage in mindless sex or intoxicated free beer drinking?
In other words is there a higher tuning of the three poisons? Are we attached to being beyond our situation?
Would you put pizza and beer on your shrine? I would. Tara, the well known Buddha babe loves that 'poison'.
http://secretdrugs.net/dutsi/
Time to party?
As you know girls have Buddha nature, some boys too . . .
Do you feel the enlightened mind manifests in Dharma Pizza, its base or topping? Do we engage in mindless sex or intoxicated free beer drinking?
In other words is there a higher tuning of the three poisons? Are we attached to being beyond our situation?
Would you put pizza and beer on your shrine? I would. Tara, the well known Buddha babe loves that 'poison'.
http://secretdrugs.net/dutsi/
Time to party?
Yes always!
What for? What's in it for me?
We should all have massive amounts of wild, unhibited, MINDLESS sex at every opportunity.
Except you, Lobster. You don't get any sex. People would rather go on a date and eat lobster rather than have sex with one.
My wife and I had totally mindless sex just the other night. We drove here:
It's a nice little B&B near Rocky Mountain National Park. We watched bull Elk sparring, had a couple whiskeys with the owner, smoked a bowl and proceeded hump like bunnies.
Pot and bunny-like humping are both legal in Colorado. The Whiskey was made just a couple miles from my house (Stranahan's). The owner was a real curmudgeon.
It was awesome!
If you are feeling pangs of jealousy, and I suspect that you are, get over it. Some of us rule and some of us drool. Sure, why not? Who cares?
Gotta love Tsok practice!
Being shot from a cannon sounds like a lot more fun.
Snuggling up to a 5-pound box of plutonium...........
No one here is enlightened!
ie. you have no doubts about the path to enlightenment.
lobster, i will make a baseless assumption
that you still have many doubts.
I have no doubt about the jhana.
http://www.dhammawiki.com/index.php?title=9_Jhanas
Nothing. There never was anything in it for you as you know.
. . . for the rest of us pleasure seekers there is the jhanas
and then some . . .
But I have no doubt at all that 'stream entry ' and all the rest of the 'Arya ' status indicators are fictions that crept into the Buddha's Dharma 600 hundred years after his death.
As has been pointed out before, stream winner , once returner, etc etc are like the Rosettes handed out at your local horse and dog show...........*
I was agreeing with you seeker242.
Or rather I was agreeing with Shunryu Suzuki Roshi.
Every new answer brings at least one more question with it and so it is a journey with no real end.
But I get what you're saying. As we are interdependent, you are all my teachers and I enjoy the learning.
"We don't practice to become enlightened... we practice because we are enlightened"
--Bernie Glassman
Duality should be our tool, not the other way around, hehe.
"Self, are you enlightened yet?"
"How should I know?"
Enlightenment will always be unfinished business.
Action based? Maybe 'non existent' . . . and even a little unbecoming . . .
What are we to think, if anything . . . :coffee:
All conditions are impermanent!
Sabbe Sankhara Dukkha!
All conditions are suffering!
Sabbe Dhamma Anatta!
All phenomena are not self!
Perhaps the role of seeker is just too . . . seductive. What on earth would we do with our precious time? Without desires, opinions and beliefs, I would be . . .
Nothing.
It is just too obvious.
Maybe I should be asking why I am unenlightened and what the difference is? Sounds like a plan . . . might have to drop it . . . :wave: