@Jeroen said:
“A good way to tell if you love someone is to see if their presence makes you happy.”
— me
I'll challenge that a bit and say that its a good way to see if you like someone. I can think of family that don't make me particularly happy but I want good for them. The inverse, someone who makes me happy that I don't love, seems harder. But I can imagine something like a celebrity you like, or an entertainer who's show you're at. They make you happy, but they're still kind of a stranger to you and not much thought goes into their well being.
person
All Change ...
Thus have I heard
Change is inevitable, suffering optional
Shoshin1
@person said:
I think I've come to this position due to past experiences where I wasn't so skeptical and followed them more freely into weird and false beliefs including a psychotic break.
That explains much, I’ve always had a very stable mind, and for me the problem is more finding out what I feel, because my inner emotional voice is so quiet. The predominant emotions I do feel are irritation and more rarely anger. More subtle emotions I have difficulty picking up when they manifest, usually I’m just cheerful all the time.
So I’m trying to find techniques to make it more visible.
Jeroen
@Jeroen said:
@person said:
I think people here are wise and experienced enough to avoid the cults. But I'll say for any lurkers or potential Googlers, that in addition to good teachers there are a lot of toxic, harmful teachers and groups one can uncritically give their love and trust to that will lead to misery.In my early spiritual years I knew someone who claimed a guru she followed harmed her psychically and she was now in a physically drained and disabled state. Sogyal Rinpoche, Sasaki Roshi, Asaram Bapu, Jim Jones, etc, etc.
It’s very arguable whether the Osho movement is a cult. It is said that the characteristics of a cult include that they make it difficult to leave and with Osho that’s totally not true, people are free to come and go as they please.
Something for your reflection. I said you were lucky to have been raised in Osho's commune rather than David Koresh's and none of the abusive guru's I listed were Osho. So any imputation of that sentiment in my words solely comes from your own psyche. I imagine the cult label has been thrown at you at times through your life. I'm just saying its probably a place in need of healing and growth.
person