@IdleChater said:
A real place - not some made-up metaphor. Is it found in the brain, the heart, the liver. Where does the self reside, and how do we find that place?And I don't care what "Indian gurus" say.
Well...
What is it that does not care - self maybe?
The self resides wherever you place your attention.
Strangely enough that is also where Nirvana and samsara hang out, too.
And if that is unclear. What is unclear? The self maybe?
And now back to the Hire Self... oh wait that might be COD (Cash On Delivery) by No One...
lobster
@IdleChater said:
A real place - not some made-up metaphor. Is it found in the brain, the heart, the liver. Where does the self reside, and how do we find that place.
For something that’s less than real to look in a real place seems like a fool’s errand.
Metaphors and fingers pointing to the moon are all that is available in this search.
IdleChaser tell me, how is it that you show so little consideration? For a Buddhist your pattern of speech is decidedly unusual.
Jeroen
@IdleChater said:
@person said:
From what I remember you're in a Tibetan tradition. I have some familiarity, is it a Madhyamika school or a Yogacara?
Karma Kagyu
I mainly studied Gelug which in my understanding is more philosophically negating. From what I gather Kagyu and Nyigma both take a more positivist view regarding the ultimate nature of mind. They don't think of it or call it a self in any way, but I believe its known as Rigpa or primordial awareness.
I ask because this is my understanding, but your answer was a decided no, so maybe there's more to it than my semi outsider view.
person
In India beef of cow is going to banned. This is already banned in Maharashtra and some other state. Moreover they have banned bull meat too. But they are not showing mercy towards goats, fish, sea creatures , Buffalo , Chickens.
They never even have any strict supervision to protect the treatment these animals got from people working in this business. Generally i have seen these animals face lot punishment. But only mercy to cow and bulls and Indian govt. is not helping other animals.
rohit
A real place - not some made-up metaphor. Is it found in the brain, the heart, the liver. Where does the self reside, and how do we find that place?
And I don't care what "Indian gurus" say.
Did the Buddha say that there is no self whatsoever? Or did he say certain qualities (form, feeling, perception, formations, consciousness), were not a self? It's been debated for a long time. What is the watcher that watches to notice when you have drifted away from the object of meditation? Is it a higher self? Or is the idea of a watcher being there also merely thinking?
There are different sort of powers of awareness of a enlightened being that I read about and I think seem powerful or "higher":
mirrorlike wisdom
discriminating Wisdom
equanimity
activity accomplishing wisdom
Jeffrey
Not sure about the 'Buddhist point of view', but going by personal experience I'll go with: yes, there is a Higher Self.
From the mundane perspective, it makes no sense, so no answer or explanation will ever satisfy.
A deep investigation into 'who am I?' + luck or Grace might trigger at least a glimpse.
However, as our old friend @genkaku might say, glimpsing the Higher Self and 50 cents will get you a bus ride. It's much more about our day to day lives, and how we are on an average Tuesday at 11 am, rather than these 'miraculous' openings.
My path these days is about the mundane and the wholesome. So, I would reccomend the same to Tavs. The Higher Self and similar matters will take care of themselves if and when the causes and conditions are right.
@Tavs said:
From a Buddhist point of view, what actually is The Higher Self? I know some Buddhists compare it to Buddha nature but I find that answer unsatisfactory or some might say its what lies beyond ego but to me this answer is vague and too abstract. People talk about it as if it's a little silent unseen deity which somehow lives in our heads. Does it exist at all?
Mmm Higher Self...
Here's some food for thought to lose your self in... aka Anatta :
Awareness is fundamentally non-conceptual before thinking splits experience into subject and object. It is empty and so can contain everything, including thought. It is boundless. And amazingly it is intrinsically knowing.
Shoshin1
@Tavs said:
From a Buddhist point of view, what actually is The Higher Self? I know some Buddhists compare it to Buddha nature but I find that answer unsatisfactory or some might say its what lies beyond ego but to me this answer is vague and too abstract. People talk about it as if it's a little silent unseen deity which somehow lives in our heads. Does it exist at all?
To be honest, I’ve never found any mention of a higher self in Buddhism. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. As @person said, you might find it in the Tao, where everything - the Earth and the heavens, including even man - is patterned after the unnameable Tao.
Jeroen