Hi,
I'm a newbie, non-Buddhist, amateur historian seeking a non-sexual social intercourse. Australia has the Dreaming where time is nothing. Did it also have Damma? There are two Indigenous countries on the east coast with a history of a boat arriving and some of the region's vocabularies have these words.
budjarahm sacred, taboo, spirit, ghost, a Dreamtime story. In Indonesia, Old Java budha (Skt) means 'the planet Mercury'. Indigenous budhu 'stars'. Skt budha 'awaking'. Indigenous_ budhin_ 'sunbeam'. budjar 'morning'. budha 'sandalwood'.
Indonesian Buddhist teachings seem to have Australian application. One of four Vinaya pārājikas for monks forbids stealing (and sexuality, murder, lying about degree of spirituality). Maybe that is connected with the virtue of burning and preventing stealing. A king burned his own body.
Sad-dharma Puṇḍárīka Sūtra. The Sutra of the Lotus Flower of the Wonderful Law.
Chapter 23 - The Story of the Bodhisattva Medicine King :
https://e-thesis.mcu.ac.th/storage/rsyZ ... 9cRrXJ.pdf p62
The Buddha then addressed the Bodhisattva Star Constellation King Flower: ‘In your opinion what say you, was the Bodhisattva Loveliness some other person? It was indeed the present Medicine King Bodhisattva. His self-sacrifice and gifts were of such countless hundred thousand myriad kotis of nayutas in number as these. Star Constellation King Flower! If anyone with his mind set on and aiming at Perfect Enlightenment is able to burn the fingers of his hand or even a toe of his foot in homage to a buddha's stupa he will surpass him who pays homage with domains, cities, wives, children, and his three-thousand-great thousand-fold land with its mountains, forests, rivers, pools, and all its precious things.’
In Sydney, buduwai may be buddha vanaya, wanaya in Old Javanese language of 800-1300CE.
https://www.academia.edu/26882939/DHARA ... o=download p6
Ritual for preventing children from becoming thieves by scorching their fingers buduwai.
https://www.williamdawes.org/docs/troy_ ... cation.pdf
Language, Mythology and Ceremony.
'ceremony to prevent people becoming thieves—the parent of a child would scorch its fingers so that it will not steal. buduway _'scorch'. _putuwi.'
https://www.williamdawes.org/docs/steele_thesis.pdf
Putuwidyánga wiangáta putuwi 'My mother scorched my fingers (that I should not steal)' .
Then putuwi was the spelling by the early British settlers and is corrected by Indigenous language-speakers to buduway.The expression can be explained as:
ganadyanga 'burning. aches', gana 'burn'. dyánga 'aches', Old Java dhyāna 'concentrate'. Indigenous/ Skt ga 'come' . Indigenous wiangáta 'my mother'.
None of these are words for 'finger, fingernail, hand', so the concept seems to be putuwi / buduway and not just 'burning a finger'.
So a word for 'snatch' yaramadyawiniya seems to contain wanaya. The first part yaramadya appears to mean 'fighting / crab. damage' suggesting stealing and an offence against wanaya. Then hopefully the child will become budyari 'good; well; right; proper'. So then, the children in Sydney were Budyari. As wanya means 'tell lie', then two of the four Winaya are part of the culture.
Adultery and murder are universal offences and probably weren't affected by new teachings. Does the evidence so far seem credible for Damma being brought to Australia?
@Dakini said:
Well, as Stephen Batchelor said in a meeting between Western Dharma teachers and the Dalai Lama, "Why would we follow teachers who are much more flawed than we are?"
It’s an interesting question, because Osho was… very unique. I hesitate to call him flawed exactly although he was far from perfect. But many people felt something special in his presence, they were drawn to him.
I remember reading a little about Ram Dass and his guru Neem Karoly Baba, that Ram Dass had said that his guru had taught him how to love. I thought it was a beautiful expression at first, but later on I kinda came around to the idea of a transmission.
It is often said that when a disciple who is ready sits by his guru, it is like an unlit piece of wood being placed near a burning piece of wood. Eventually the unlit piece catches fire. Which is how Rupert Spira said it happened between him and his teacher Francis Lucille.
It is a brave man who says with certainty what is a flaw, is how I’d put it.
Jeroen
I feel this is a healthy direction.
I have a particular affection/attachment (attachments have their higher form) to Metta-Ray or Maitreya, who is into that sort of thing …
Metta 4 All … a sort of spiritual composting …
lobster
I'm not that familiar with the subject but I hear people talking more about the distinction between happiness and meaning in living a good life. That you can have one without the other.
Just saying it may be an avenue to go down.
person
From another topic…
For me, it made me ask whether I had lived enough from the heart. I’ve always been quite into planning and strategizing, living from the mind, and have done very few things that were spontaneous. That means I’ve been very ‘sensible’ and non-impulsive, very safe, but also that I haven’t lived from the heart very much.
I’ve been thinking about what it means to live from the heart, and where I have lived from the heart in my life. Early in my life I loved living from my imagination, every book I read was like a world that would open to me. Later in my life I loved making things, software and ceramics especially. I love the young pear tree that I am growing in the garden.
But is living from the heart just concerned with love, the things that speak to you, that are emotionally meaningful to you? Or is there more, inspiration, enthusiasm?
Jeroen
My contribution I guess is to do what I can. I have material needs like food, exercise, a roof over my head, etc met and spiritual and social ones I keep stretching out and that's a good sign. The world wasn't what I expected
. I reckon I could play sad music from my youth but it only makes me cry
Jeffrey
“I found that the chief difficulty for most people was to realize that they had really heard ‘new things’: that is, things that they had never heard before. They kept translating what they heard into their habitual language. They had ceased to hope and believe there might be anything new.”
—Ouspensky
Jeroen