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Re: Following Osho, Zen Buddhism and Being Rational
@Jeroen said:
@person said:
@Jeroen said:
If one is to “strive on untiringly” with “the Dhamma and the discipline as your teacher”, that sounds like a straitjacket. How does that lead to being free? It sounds to me like it will shape you into something disciplined, controlled, confined by habit.
In my understanding, its less about the type of life you lead right now, but about where that path will lead you in the end. The discipline of the path leads to real, lasting freedom. Often times things that produce positive long term outcomes aren't necessarily pleasant in the short term. And vis versa.
Hmm. That is just a belief. My real, lived experience is that too much discipline leads to insensitivity and more ego. A little discipline goes a long way. The problem is more likely to be a shortage of kindness.
You have it backwards, your idea is just a belief. My real, lived experience is that discipline leads to positive results and a lack of it leads to a diminished life and a tendency to blame the world and others for your problems.
So in reality I'm right and you're wrong. It's just rational, undeniable facts.
If you can't tell I'm being hyperbolic to make a point about perspective.
person
Re: Following Osho, Zen Buddhism and Being Rational
Oh it’s just something to talk about. And it’s something I spend time on.
Jeroen
Re: Following Osho, Zen Buddhism and Being Rational
Is the goal of being free of dhukkha realistic?
Totally free? Born in the Purelands? Able to withstand the hell realms?
Well... strangely enough, as we season:
- Dukkha lessens its lessons
- We learn to trigger our and others well-being
- The unrealistic is The Ideal
I am off to suffer an instant coffee. Which I will enjoy...
lobster
Re: Following Osho, Zen Buddhism and Being Rational
Mangala Sutta: Blessings
Ooh I luvs blessings! 
I think I might be a neutral blessing, working as a curse on the ignorant simultaneously. Don't thank me. 
From what I know:
- inactions speak louder than silence
- by effect not affectations shall the bodhi be veiled and revealed
- Listen, glisten, watch and yearn, or better yeti, learn
- It is never too latte for destimulation
In other words, in your own ‘words-gone’
lobster
Re: Writing autobiographical pieces
Writing autobiographical pieces
Mine "I came, I saw, I'm Bonkers" short and sweet 
Shoshin1
Re: No Buddhist Quotes
Wealth is like saltwater, the more we drink, the more we thirst
~Schopenhauer~
Shoshin1
Re: Writing autobiographical pieces
Indeed.
I have claws, fists, grappling and kick in the Nazi areas, skills from my youngling days.
Have you considered dressing as a citrus fruit, to develop immunity to being called a freak?
Here to help.
lobster
Writing autobiographical pieces
I’ve taken on the task of writing a series of articles about my youth in the communes and spiritual journey in later life, and I have to admit some very interesting stuff is coming up.
I was reminiscing about going about dressed in orange as a kid, and the schoolyard scrapes I got into as a result. There were a few fights, and later in life I realise that there still is the impulse to fight people with fists when a conflict goes off the rails.
These things from early childhood have deep roots!
Jeroen
