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if you could levitate
genkaku
Northampton, Mass. U.S.A. Veteran
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Nah... I'd find better things to do. I think if you can do "magical" things like fly and such, you probably wouldn't want to show anyone out of fear of being hunted down and killed or used for your abilities. Not to mention, you'll probably want to do humble, behind the scenes dharma work and help the world, not focus on making a profit and showing off just to show off... which answers the question at the end of your article "Then what?". At least that's what I would do. :om: :om: :om: :om: :om:
Ever since I was very young, I honestly thought I could fly if I concentrated hard enough (i.e. or as we call it as adults, "meditation"). I would sit in my bedroom and shut my eyes and really believe it was possible. I was about 4 years old doing this... so maybe it's something I learned about in a previous life that stuck with me. I also thought I could control the weather, too, and I found that's another closely associated "magical" thing. Strange, eh? Lots of things like this have stuck with me... strong imprints I suppose. So I tend to believe in the stuff, really. It doesn't phase me in the least that it's possible.
Vincenzi Member
August 2011 edited August 2011 Flag
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The cool thing about that footage is that it shows how aliens can disappear and appear at will. They're very much in touch with the astral plane, with other dimensions, they can go through walls etc. They aren't restricted by the modern science that we know.
I invented that technique of the astral hand (used now to make mudras of defense, protection & as sigils for Galdr).
I warn everyone reading this: within the timeframe of 2012/2014 (the 13th Baktun, and first 2 years of the new Baktun); aliens/elves may visit earth. there is a telepathic connection // hacking skills are AAA (Stuxnet level) // warrior skills :: enough to slay asuras. Pleiadian aliens/devas are acting starting this year in a more active way... I claim alliance to Pleione as a rebirth from there.
Gæa is awakened, deal with it
It's untrue ... then what?
Is suffering somehow mitigated either way? Is joyful peace improved? Is faith credibly enhanced? Is there chocolate cake for dessert?
So freaky.
Rumour had it that Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche levitated down the monastery corridors at night.
I took a deep breath and asked him if it was true.
He gave me one of his looks.. " ( Dharma name )" .. he said eventually " go away and grow up ".
He later wrote a classic called " Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism "...cough.
So I guess we zoom back around to the initial question, "Then what?" I dunno then. If it doesn't inspire and only creates grasping, then who knows? Maybe they all secretly turn into superheros and save kittens in trees when we're not looking. :vimp:
And good ol' cranky but loveable uncle Henry: "Men talk about Bible miracles because there is no miracle in their lives. Cease to gnaw that crust. There is ripe fruit over your head." ~ Henry David Thoreau, Journal entry dated June 1850
I just can't muster a fascination for miracles of the so-called "supernatural" sort. It seems to suggest that what already lies at hand has some lesser value. As if it has to found elsewhere-- anywhere but here! I'd rather just chop firewood and fetch water.
Why do "supernatural" things have to be seen as "better" or greater? To me, they seem quite... regular and neutral. And why do some individuals think of supernatural abilities as "dirty" or something that we shouldn't acknowledge? Walking... running... biking... flying... it's all the same to me! Why isn't it the same to you (speaking in the general "you", not directly towards you, riverflow)? Ahh... it's your preconceived notions, that's what! That's what's causing you to see certain things as "good" or "bad".
When people assign greater value to supernatural occurrences, it is them, not the person who possesses the supernatural ability, that has the grasping issue. To me, flying is just as normal as the example of fetching water. Not saying I can fly, but if I saw someone else do it, it would be just as equal. Those who are placing such a heavy feeling of "awe" on it are the ones who need to sit back and examine why they are so fascinated by it and look down upon it with such disdain (or, perhaps, jealousy?). It's like someone who cannot sing well putting down someone else who can. It's just an action; movement... energy flowing but at a different rate. So why does there always seem to be this attitude of "oh, supernatural things are for show offs and unenlightening beings" when it's brought up? If you can levitate? That's awesome! If you can read minds? Super cool! If you can play the piano well? I love it! If you can pat your head and rub your belly at the same time? Teach me how!
I just don't get it. Everyone needs to stop "poo-poo'ing" supernatural abilities like there's something inherently wrong with them. If you have them, I am happy for you. It means you're evolving and doing something beautiful. :thumbsup: And if you can't do anything "supernatural" like most of the rest of humanity, that's equally as hunky-dory. We all have unique things about us. Open up your minds and stop grasping at what *your* preconceived notions are as to what is "good" and what is "bad." If supernatural abilities were "bad" and a sign of self-indulgent behavior, then they wouldn't have been mentioned in the dharma in a positive light in any manner.
So if your intentions are pure and you possess supernatural abilities, then there should be no issue nor any judgement against you for having them, right? As long as your goal isn't to develop them, but they come by naturally, then what is the problem? Again, I feel and sense a lot of jealousy from people when this topic comes up. It's almost as if, "I work hard, but I am not clairvoyant... so let me act as if it's not something important, so I don't feel left out." To think and feel this way is ridiculous and a sign that you are hungry for power and "specialness." And that's probably why you won't ever develop any abilities anyway. As CItta pointed out, "Go away and grow up."
Flyinglevitating, just falling with style! Jeesh, gimme a break!I simply cannot relate to that desire of importing the "supernatural" onto events. I don't think of that as a judgment-- I simply makes no sense to me when I have found other, more rational explanations for things. How can I go by anyone else's experience? And what I cannot explain I can rest content without resorting to any explanation at all. It never occurs to me to use the supernatural as a stop-gap where we can't otherwise explain it.
In the meantime, I do often see miraculous things that many people often don't take the time to notice. Why would I even need to stray into the metaphysical? Must we label the mundane as "mundane"? Just because you can explain something in rational terms doesn't mean it can't also possess great beauty and mystery. It all depends on how you relate to a given thing. I can examine the structure of a piece of music, but that won't tell me why it moves me so (and certainly not why it might move anyone else!). I can have the best of both worlds, but what I experience takes place in one and the same world, not two different ones.
I know not everyone sees it that way (I suppose it would be boring if everyone did!), but I experience life that way. It has nothing to do with "good" or "bad."
Regarding sidhis (paranormal powers), @SillyPutty, I think sometimes it is said not to take sidhis as a sign of spiritual attainment. If you think about it, it is in line with what you say. Sidhis are ordinary and they don't involve the four noble truths. They are just like being a fast runner or having perfect pitch or a photographic memory.
But it is cautioned to remember that you have to study and meditate so investing all of your energy in your sidhi does not get you out of samsara. If you believe in the cosmology of some teachers/ings you will find that Gods and creator devas have tons of sidhis but they are still attached to the wheel of samsara. In an eastern culture class I took we had a coursepack of a gimish of eastern writings and in one writing Brahma was addressing the Buddha and the Buddha (or was it krishna?) pointed to an ant that was in the splendorous throne room floor. Buddha asked if Brahma saw that ant. The Brahma said 'of courses why do you ask?' The Buddha then explained that the ant had once been Brahma and lived out a life as the God, but eventually the karma turned and it had many rebirths to become an ant. The Buddha revealed that Brahma who was in the room as creator God also once upon a time was an ant like the one on the floor who had through many rebirths risen to become himself, Brahma. I mention this because even Brahma is still in the cycle of rebirths.
(note I don't intend to upset any person or sect of hinduism. This is just a little tale from my course book of my eastern/western arts and culture class.)
On that note, I don't want to be reborn as a god again nor do I want to be reborn in the lower realms either, if that means I won't have a chance to learn the dharma, thus reach enlightenment. Human rebirth is the only way to learn the dharma and reach enlightenment from what I'm told, so even though I tend to hate it here, I would like to keep coming back here if that is the case. I want to try to get this "enlightenment" thing right (although that is grasping in and of itself) because I understand that all of these attachments we have are just going to keep making us come back over and over again. I also don't want to have any aversions either, because that's just as bad and keeps you coming back. So if I was blessed with the ability to fly tomorrow, but had to give it up the next day, I wouldn't bat an eyelash. Nothing lasts forever, and we shouldn't hold onto anything "forever"-- especially something as insignificant as "supernatural" abilities. I just want to be the best I can be, and when enlightenment finally does happen, be able to help others get to the same point so we're all one big happy family, flying around and dunking basketballs together (or something to that effect...
So... yeah... it is what it is, I suppose.
If I win the lottery and I’m a multimillionaire; then what?
If I find the secret to eternal youth (and get 25 years younger first); then what?
If … you can fill in whatever you want... but then what?
If that's the case, then we're all pretty much screwed.
With warmth,
Matt
I loved that show . Remember how big the hats were? It was quite a plausible scenario to my six year old brain that such small nun with such a big hat could fly.
The nun was a reluctant flyer who learned to use her powers for good so there is much to be learned here.
I do not believe in levitation but would love to be proved wrong. However, the reaction a mere mortal has to a godly power is an interesting study.
(then again, maybe everyone else will take this as a sign that I have "attained enlightenment"!!!)
With the light on.
And I was using yogic powers..."hey hey boo boo...watch this"...and take a picture...lol
When asked if he a god or a deva he replied " I am awake".
Gods or devas were the only model familiar to his questioners coming as they did from an ancient preexisting religious culture with a well formed mindset.
His reply indicated a different mode a different alternative..that conventional life, including conventional reigious life in its ancient Indian forms, is the dream.
But he was awake.
I agree it's a stretch but just saying... "Look at THEY who are SWIMMING"
Levitation could come to be quite an ordinary thing.