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@Vastmind- i never totally left, i just accidentally turned of the cookies on my device, so whenever i came around NB, i did it without logging in. and let me tell you this: it was a facsinating lesson in non-attatchment and an awesome practice ground for keeping my big mouth shut. there were so many times i wanted to shake my fist at something, laugh along, or just give an awesome but i thought my device's browser was just crap and i never tried to figure out the problem. lol! but, alas, i surface. thanks for the warm welcome! now whose feathers need ruffling?:)
But isn't that essentially looking at karma backwards? In both example you refrence the past. Isn't the Buddhist notion of karma supposed to be about how you act right here, right now, and what effects that will have in the future?
I think it's just different ways of looking at the same thing. What we do now has consequences in the future, just as what we did in the past has consequences for the present. It doesn't matter whether we're thinking of past / future lives or past / future years in a single lifetime, the principle is the same.
That may (or may not) be the end result - no one knows that for sure one way or the other - but I follow the precepts for my own personal reasons, without the promise of 'reward'.
But presumably following the precepts has some kind of positive outcome, both for yourself and for others? If following the precepts didn't have some kind of positive outcome, then why make the effort? Also "reward" doesn't have to be interpreted in a pejorative way.
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DavidA human residing in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Ancestral territory of the Erie, Haudenosaunee, Huron-Wendat, Mississauga and Neutral First NationsVeteran
I don't care what all the skeptics and naysayers say, I believe in Nihilism, %100.
Nice one. I don't think there's anything wrong with being a nihilist - I remember one of my teachers saying that in terms of Buddhist practice it's better to veer towards nihilism than towards eternalism, presumably because it reduces attachment.
I believe in nothing.... everything is sacred to me.
I believe in everything.... nothing is sacred to me.
^^^The 2 above statements are true, at least in reards to my perspective. So does that make me a Nihlist or Anti-Nihlist?
Confusion say... If one believes in nothing they will never know anything.
BUT.... since both statements function to cancel each other out, what am i left with? well, obviously, the middle way.
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DavidA human residing in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Ancestral territory of the Erie, Haudenosaunee, Huron-Wendat, Mississauga and Neutral First NationsVeteran
Rebirth is a religious belief but I don't see karma as religious belief. Nor do I think following the precepts need to be a religious practice.
DavidA human residing in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Ancestral territory of the Erie, Haudenosaunee, Huron-Wendat, Mississauga and Neutral First NationsVeteran
I believe in nothing.... everything is sacred to me.
I believe in everything.... nothing is sacred to me.
^^^The 2 above statements are true, at least in reards to my perspective. So does that make me a Nihlist or Anti-Nihlist?
Confusion say... If one believes in nothing they will never know anything.
BUT.... since both statements function to cancel each other out, what am i left with? well, obviously, the middle way.
Could be, could be... I still think a distinction must be made between "nothing" and "no-thing" to avoid confusion. If there is nothing then there is no such thing as anything whatsoever and if there is anything whatsoever, there is no such thing as "nothing".
I'm just whining about my own idea of what the semantics may be and not trying to say you are wrong by any means.
Heck... Middle is my middle name.
With metta; our middle self
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DavidA human residing in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Ancestral territory of the Erie, Haudenosaunee, Huron-Wendat, Mississauga and Neutral First NationsVeteran
edited December 2013
To say that nothing is is to negate the first noble truth.
The fourth would then not need the eightfold path, it would only need a way to see that suffering is not.
Rebirth is a religious belief but I don't see karma as religious belief. Nor do I think following the precepts need to be a religious practice.
I broadly agree, but I'd distinguish between rebirth as part of Buddhism's "religious" content and rebirth as a belief - they are not the same thing. It's quite possible to acknowledge that rebirth is a Buddhist teaching without taking it on as a personal belief.
rebirth - is a fact if you study and experience the teachings properly. In each moment you are born live for the moment and die. There is no place for nihilism. As a concept it is self-annhilating.
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DavidA human residing in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Ancestral territory of the Erie, Haudenosaunee, Huron-Wendat, Mississauga and Neutral First NationsVeteran
Wait - I have decided to become an existential nihilist for a moment.
Well now thats over what next?
Social nihilist - well I've been teetering on the thought of that for a while, but can't live without some kind of social interaction - what do you think cyber avatars?
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I'm just whining about my own idea of what the semantics may be and not trying to say you are wrong by any means.
Heck... Middle is my middle name.
With metta;
our middle self
The fourth would then not need the eightfold path, it would only need a way to see that suffering is not.
Guess I am not a nihilist... Oh well.
I am a nihilist
after breakfast it may be possible the impossible is 'wrong speech' and just an act . . .
Maybe you had something else in mind? :wave:
No point in eating, is there?
Well now thats over what next?
Social nihilist - well I've been teetering on the thought of that for a while, but can't live without some kind of social interaction - what do you think cyber avatars?
very good link