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Covid Cabin

lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran
edited March 2020 in Buddhism Today


From another thread:

Anyways, there's some musings from this Covid Cabin.

My aunt is in Swiss hospital in cv-19 isolation. πŸ™ˆπŸ™‰πŸ™Š

Where is the good? πŸ‘ΌπŸ½

  • Planet turning Greta Green. Hooray. <3
  • It was the worst of times, it was the best of times
  • Baby boom coming in 9 months
  • Real people. Real solutions. 🦠

Should I be wearing full ninja or yashmak with goggles?

How goes your feverings? 🧻

BunksAlexJeroen
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Comments

  • ShoshinShoshin No one in particular Nowhere Special Veteran
    edited March 2020

    Should I be wearing full ninja or yashmak with goggles?

    Hmm...What would a Buddhist do ???

    BunksAlex
  • FosdickFosdick in its eye are mirrored far off mountains Alaska, USA Veteran

    Feverishly sewing masks. Wish I had something besides white cloth. Maybe sequins?

    lobsterShoshin
  • adamcrossleyadamcrossley Veteran UK Veteran

    Take care @Kerome <3

  • SuraShineSuraShine South Australia Veteran
    edited March 2020

    My husband is building guitars and I am reading and trying to find patterns to make face masks that do not require a sewing machine (I am sewing-challenged)

    I’m re-reading this gem as well:
    HHDL

    ShoshinlobsterBunks
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    @FeistyGibblets said:
    My husband is building guitars and I am reading and trying to find patterns to make face masks that do not require a sewing machine (I am sewing-challenged)

    I’m re-reading this gem as well:
    https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/GUEST_848dd934-ce16-45f6-bf7a-c5670309e07d?fmt=pjpeg&wid=1400&qlt=80

    Are you making masks for any specific people or purpose...?
    This may - or may not - be of interest...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-51881555/coronavirus-do-face-masks-actually-work

    I am knitting squares for a Group called "Blankets for the Homeless". Our local 'Pod' or collection point, actually channels some squares towards other recipients... Hospices for the terminally ill, prem. baby units... so all squares serve a purpose, which is good to know...

    lobsterBunks
  • SuraShineSuraShine South Australia Veteran

    @federica said:

    Are you making masks for any specific people or purpose...?

    I’m making a few for me. I’m considered high risk so when I need to venture out for groceries, I want a bit of a buffer. I have disposable gloves to wear as well.

    Thanks. I’ve read the pros and cons of face masks and their levels of effectiveness. It may not help that much, but I’m willing to try it anyway. I’ve got plenty of hand sanitiser, I’ve made my own according to the CDC requirements and given some to friends of mine (via drop offs to their mailboxes).

    Bunks
  • FosdickFosdick in its eye are mirrored far off mountains Alaska, USA Veteran
    edited March 2020

    I am also high risk. I have yet to read any convincing arguments against wearing a mask, or any actual data to support the arguments that have been put forth against doing so. Speculative assertions and prevailing opinion yes, data, no.

    What little data there is appears to me to support wearing a mask, not the opposite. There is not enough known about how this virus spreads, and I intend to wear both mask and gloves. I would rather look like a clown for the next twelvemonth than take an even slightly greater chance of ending up sick or in the morgue. My dogs, my wife, my feeder birds, and the flies in my studio would be seriously inconvenienced in either case.

    johnathanShoshinBunksSuraShine
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran

    I have this mask in the garden. I feel it will ensure social distancing if used with coughing and if I dance towards people ... o:)

    Here to help πŸ™πŸ½πŸ¦žπŸ’—πŸ€ͺ🦠😷

    WalkerFosdickadamcrossleySuraShine
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran

    That is a good look @Shoshin. I think the white jacket will also encourage social distancing and possibly immediate access to medical isolation ...

    Some great tips guys ... <3

    ShoshinSuraShine
  • ShoshinShoshin No one in particular Nowhere Special Veteran

    Great news..Germany is helping Italy's Lombardy region by flying out critically ill Italians to hospitals in Germany...It would seem "Karuna" virus is spreading...and this is a good thing <3

    lobsterSuraShine
  • Limited range cut to fractional limited range.
    No real Federal support - Oligarchs just gifted themselves up to 2 trillion USD and threw table scraps at the common folk. Not following Germany's lead...
    family safe so far. People helping people. All positive action at local level.
    Everyone stay safe, stay healthy. Don't shoot or stab your cabin mate. Hugs when safe.

    Peace to all.

    Shoshinlobster
  • JeroenJeroen Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter Netherlands Veteran

    2 trillion usd... that seems an unimaginably huge amount.

  • BunksBunks Australia Veteran
    edited March 2020

    @Kerome said:
    2 trillion usd... that seems an unimaginably huge amount.

    It certainly does!!

    Works out to be about $6,000 per person in the States.

    ($2,000,000,000,000 / 330,000,000)

  • VimalajātiVimalajāti Whitby, Ontario Veteran

    @Kerome said:
    2 trillion usd... that seems an unimaginably huge amount.

    Now think about America's debt! :|

  • JeroenJeroen Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter Netherlands Veteran

    Friends of ours were in India in Punjab to take photos of a local festival, when they arrived the hotel had closed because of coronavirus. By way of exception they were allowed to stay one night, and the next morning they were escorted by police to the railway station, where they bought the last two tickets on the day’s only train to New Delhi. Once there, they managed to get the last two tickets on the last commercial flight back to the UK... now recovering from the adventure in their home near Dartmoor.

    BunkslobsterAlex
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran

    Zoom for Cabin residents ...

    https://zoom.us/download
    Meeting ID: 644 213 0484

  • SuraShineSuraShine South Australia Veteran

    My husband just finished making a beautiful guitar for a friend of his - who was speechless when he received it last night. I've turned our kitchen into an area of (hopeful) harmony with my aromatherapy oil burner, fresh fruit and a small home office at the kitchen table :)

    BunkslobsterFrogpond
  • CarameltailCarameltail UK Veteran

    Now is a good time to start a new hobby or continue a old one for sure. Yeah its good to see photos of places where the pollution is all gone.

    BunksSuraShinelobster
  • adamcrossleyadamcrossley Veteran UK Veteran

    @lobster said:
    Zoom for Cabin residents ...

    https://zoom.us/download
    Meeting ID: 644 213 0484

    Is this a call for forum members? What’s happening @lobster?

    Alex
  • AlexAlex UK Veteran

    I agree, it would be kind of fun to have a group Zoom, maybe if someone felt confident in leading a meditation ? Or we just get together and chat. Dunno. I did online Zazen with a local Zen group last night, was very powerful. I’m up for it, anyhow πŸ™

    adamcrossley
  • adamcrossleyadamcrossley Veteran UK Veteran

    @Alex said:
    I agree, it would be kind of fun to have a group Zoom, maybe if someone felt confident in leading a meditation ? Or we just get together and chat.

    That would be lovely @Alex. We could always have audio-only if people were uncertain about video. I do not feel experienced enough to lead a meditation but I’m sure others here would.

    @Vimalajāti, that sounds very difficult. And it’s certainly a bad time for hypochondriacs! Take care <3

    Alex
  • BunksBunks Australia Veteran

    "Cluster" seems to be the buzz word here in the media at the moment.

    A commentator mentioned that 30,000 Americans died of the flu last Winter.

    You'd expect social distancing to lower that number significantly this year.

  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran

    @FeistyGibblets said:
    My husband just finished making a beautiful guitar for a friend of his - who was speechless when he received it last night. I've turned our kitchen into an area of (hopeful) harmony with my aromatherapy oil burner, fresh fruit and a small home office at the kitchen table :)

    Now we are talking ... overcoming Cabin fever. πŸ€¦πŸΌβ€β™€οΈ

    Zoom is available on ios devices, android and through a browser ...
    I tried it yesterday and prefer it to Skype.

    Group meditation ... well maybe later. I did hear that some are using it as a virtual pub/bar/inn - bring your own drink ... which in our case would be ambrosia πŸ™πŸ½

    So we can have a chat and calm (or at least not laugh) at the hypochondriacs. πŸ‘ΌπŸ½

    The ID is my personal ID on zoom so if setting something up (which I will not do) someone can invite me ... I might even turn up ...

    Others can also provide their ID’s if they like ... πŸ’—

    AlexSuraShine
  • SuraShineSuraShine South Australia Veteran

    I've got the basic (free) Zoom as I have a paid Skype account already. Everyone is using Zoom at work as our Skype for Business server can't handle the increased workload. The basic account limits meetings to 40 minutes though.

    lobster
  • howhow Veteran Veteran

    Lots of Buddhist centers, teachers and groups out there using zoom for dharma talks and group sittings. Its a very user friendly system that's easily downloaded, stable, usable through a wide range of systems, can allow an easy shared display of whatever is on your computer, has very crisp live video imaging and is free for most non commercial usages.

    The only complaints I've heard so far is called zoom bombing, where the publicly emailed IDs are picked up and anonymously used for introducing potentially offensive materials onto a meeting. Like photo bombing but without the humor.

    Anything that ever appears on the zoom site can be copied.

    and a now infamous and pretty funny video of some poor smuck who got so blasΓ© with zoom that she inadvertently walked with the smart phone that she was using into her home bathroom in the middle of a office meeting with 12 associates. Oh for a little mindfulness.
    12 seriously bored office folks who were initially too shocked to say anything, start losing it in laughter wherein the otherwise engaged bathroom girl realizing what she'd done, drops the phone from her royal mount.

    Cheers

    BunksShoshin
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran

    Zoom is more secure (in use by British Govt - my sister uses it for her civil service work at Westminster). It has shot to the top of IOS free apps.

    40 min time limit does not apply to one on one contact. It is if you are doing a conference call. In the free account, conference calls are limited in number and have a time limit.

    If phone bombing occurs from trolls/spammers etc they can be muted and reported. Not a problem.

    https://zoom.us/freesignup

  • personperson Don't believe everything you think The liminal space Veteran

    Regarding masks

    Breaking: CDC’s recommendation on use of cloth face coverings, especially in areas of significant community-based transmission of COVID-19. Read more at link below.

    Recent studies show that a significant portion of individuals with COVID-19 lack symptoms (β€œasymptomatic”) and that even those who eventually develop symptoms (β€œpre-symptomatic”) can transmit the virus to others before showing symptoms.

    In light of new evidence, CDC recommends wearing cloth face coverings to slow spread of COVID-19 in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain (e.g., grocery stores and pharmacies) esp. in areas of significant community-based transmission.

    Maintaining 6-feet min. social distancing remains important to slowing spread of COVID-19. CDC also advises use of simple cloth face coverings to slow the spread of the virus and help people who may have the virus and do not know it from transmitting it to others.

    Cloth face coverings fashioned from household items or made at home from common materials at low cost can be used as an additional, voluntary public health measure to help slow the spread of COVID-19.

    The cloth face coverings recommended to slow spread of COVID-19 are not surgical masks or N-95 respirators. Those critical supplies must continue to be reserved for healthcare workers and other medical first responders, as recommended by current CDC guidance. https://bit.ly/2Ravt42

    ShoshinBunkslobster
  • FosdickFosdick in its eye are mirrored far off mountains Alaska, USA Veteran

    Better late than never.

  • johnathanjohnathan Canada Veteran

    That was beautifully put @federica would you allow me to copy/paste that into my Facebook feed with proper credit to its source... I think the world needs to hear this message.

    lobsterFrogpondBunksadamcrossley
  • federicafederica Seeker of the clear blue sky... Its better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak out and remove all doubt Moderator

    @johnathan said:
    That was beautifully put @federica would you allow me to copy/paste that into my Facebook feed with proper credit to its source... I think the world needs to hear this message.

    You're very welcome. No worries about crediting it. Feel free to share. :)

    johnathanFrogpondBunksadamcrossley
  • ShoshinShoshin No one in particular Nowhere Special Veteran
    edited April 2020

    It's interesting how we often think about the end of the world...If one thinks about it, the end of the world has been happening from the get go, when the first human with the ability to think about death died..and every death is for the dying person the end of the world....as the psycho-physical phenomenon called the self, has been conditioned to know it...

  • BrianBrian Detroit, MI Moderator

    Hang in there @lobster. We're under similar lockdown here in Detroit, one of America's "Hotspots" unfortunately. We'll get through this!

    BunksadamcrossleylobsterFrogpond
  • JeroenJeroen Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter Netherlands Veteran

    That’s a very psychedelically hypnotic gif, @lobster...

    Take good care of yourself, you’ll get through it!

    BunksadamcrossleylobsterFrogpond
  • lobsterlobster Crusty Veteran

    Lockdown is great. πŸ‘πŸΌπŸ™ƒ

    Bushy the squirrel came this morning and birds are often happily bathing in a large circular drip tray.

    Thanks for the kind words and thoughts πŸ’—πŸ™πŸ½πŸŒˆ

    FrogpondStraight_ManBunks
  • adamcrossleyadamcrossley Veteran UK Veteran

    I firmly believe animals know where they’re loved and tend to come back.

    Take care @lobster
    Sending good wishes from North Yorkshire!

    FrogpondBunkslobster
  • Straight_ManStraight_Man Gentle Man Veteran

    Metta going to you!

    lobster
  • FrogpondFrogpond California Explorer
    edited April 2020

    Take care everybody. Best wishes. πŸ™πŸ™πŸ€—πŸ€—

    lobster
  • adamcrossleyadamcrossley Veteran UK Veteran
    edited April 2020

    Given the lockdown, I find myself trying to meditate in a busier, noisier house. I’m wondering about listening to some music/sounds through headphones to tune out of the conversations I can hear in the next room.

    Are there any recommended ways of doing this? What should I listen to? Should I pay attention to the music as my meditation, or proceed as normal with attention on the breath, body, and mind?

    Frogpond
  • ShoshinShoshin No one in particular Nowhere Special Veteran
    edited April 2020

    @adamcrossley said:
    Given the lockdown, I find myself trying to meditate in a busier, noisier house. I’m wondering about listening to some music/sounds through headphones to tune out of the conversations I can hear in the next room.

    Are there any recommended ways of doing this?

    Yes

    What should I listen to?

    Whatever vibrations float through you...eg, sound of others speaking creaks of the house, foot steps, cars going by....

    Should I pay attention to the music as my meditation, or proceed as normal with attention on the breath, body, and mind?

    It's a good idea to always start with your breath...after a while observing the breath wil become automatic/natural process regardless of the situation one finds oneself in...

    "Every moment is a moment of events and no moment passes by without an event...One can not notice a moment without noticing events taking place in that moment...Therefore, the moment one tries to pay bare attention to is...the present moment.."

    lobsterFrogpondhow
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